Someone might get hurt. We have limited resources, so to spend money on this non-senses is wrong. Enter with an open mind. Unless you need a lot of territory, and you dont plan on travelling or returning to earth of course. Everyone who says "We'll just dig up X for resource Y" as if it's just that simple needs a serious reality check. Leave with a blown one. Left: Dust devils on Mars. To build such a thing is still decades off, and this is just one of the more trivial details of things that people fail to understand. We've had the technology to launch - and land - men there since the '70s. And once there, water and soil could be extracted. We can spare a few heroic lives for the betterment of humankind, and indeed, for that of the overburdened Earth. An international effort led by the US to expand a human presence to the Moon and Mars is working on the revenue side of the ledger. 52,5km is Denver air pressures with ~37C/100F air temperatures, which seems a nice balance. When that unexpected thing happens to our Earth-bound ecology, what, exactly, is our safety strategy? Too bad it’s such a jerk. Mars is a stepping stone, not a destination. Outside our protective magnetic sphere, space is a shooting gallery of solar radiation and cosmic rays that would wreak havoc on our bodies to a level that right now we can only speculate. Then there's the problem of being stuck in a tin can for 9-12 months, and still being in good enough shape to do something useful once you get there. Or maybe Mars is not yet a stepping stone, more a cool challenge? I for my part would happily join a trip to mars, even one way under a few conditions. And Safety culture really really really hates the idea of going to Mars. With both SpaceX and NASA ramping up plans to go to Mars, maybe it’s time to consider the other side of the discussion – that traveling to Mars might be a terrible idea. 5 Reasons Going To Mars is a TERRIBLE Idea. I've enjoyed climbing on small scales myself, though mostly I prefer hiking (even on more difficult terrain). You clearly have *no* idea about the orders of magnitude of difference between the 2 endeavours. But this will not happen without nuclear propulsion. Nor is it difficult bringing several orders magnitude greater "stuff" than the article contemplates. There are also some concerns about turbulence and lightning, although we think these are confined to lower altitudes. These men actually tried some of the privations of a trip to Mars, on a budget: http://channel.nationalgeograp... [nationalgeographic.com]. We have been maintaining human life on the space station for years. There are plenty of humans, we are not a scarce resource. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Forget Mars; it's a luxury that we can look into after we get the basics down. The Martian atmosphere has only 1% of the air pressure of Earth. Hell, we have refugees cramming themselves for weeks at a time into tiny boxes that would seem luxuriously expansive to any astronaut in hopes of reaching a better life. First, aside from proving that we can do it, what is the point? Also the air around you is breathable, the water below you has food in it. This never stopped our predecessors and defined science and discovery in ways unimaginable. Again, its FEASIBLE to do this, but we are at least a decade away from such a thing, maybe more. Most plastics, for example, are indifferent to it. To start off, traveling to Mars is a very dangerous task. Sure, saving the planet is hard. If humans do eventually land on Mars, they would not arrive alone. Because Mars is one of few places with a reasonable day/night cycle. Some SOx-hardy plants might even be able to grow on the exterior of the craft if properly watered and nourished. This idea irritates me to no end. 10 Good Reasons Not to Colonize Mars Robert Walker , Science 2.0 August 15, 2013 Mars is a fascinating planet, the most like Earth of all the planets in the solar system, and may help us to understand much about the origins of life on Earth. Yes, but there's a well-known solution of a rotating space station [wikipedia.org] to produce artificial gravity, an idea that has been around for more than a century. But, the biggest issues that future lunar plans face are costs and political will to move forward. Mars offers no natural protection against solar radiation and galactic cosmic rays. It exists, assuming we don't demand a single ground launch for said spacecraft or the trajectory skirts the outer edges of the belts rather than pass through the middle (what the Apollo missions did). Technically, humanity probably could colonize Mars already. Issue number one: Radiation. The idea being that the atmosphere should be a more consistent and reliable source of raw materials than mined water ice. Of course, we all die, but any Mars mission is suicide right now. If you want to 'colonize Mars' it would make FAR more sense to colonize Antarctica, or the deep ocean, both of which are infinitely more hospitable and closer. So SpaceX’s vertical propulsive landing option is probably best for Mars, but this is something that’s never been done up to this point, so it’s hard to know what challenges there are in attempting this with the thinner atmosphere and lower gravity. What’s Happening (And Not Happening) With Hyperloop, Megaprojects: Terraforming The Sahara | Answers With Joe, Could Humans Actually Build A Dyson Sphere? Mars doesn't make any sense, when we've got the moon just sitting there. And lastly, we've explored Mars way better than we've explored Venus - there's far bigger outstanding scientific questions about Venus than about Mars. On Mars that can work scaled up to wings a meter across because of the thin atmosphere also assisted by the low gravity. Pointing out the clear reality of a situation isn't leftist. The New York Times article has the title "Let’s Not Move to Mars" and is basically a rant about how we won't be living on Mars anytime soon (if ever). I mean, seriously, and you want to use dug-up muddy Mars ice with who knows what in it as your feedstock? In such a phase, one tries to produce everything robotically and then store it, with the idea of having everything present on-site and ready when people arrive. While a rover is far less than a human 100 sophisticated rovers with advanced manipulators, semi-autonomy, and sample return capability are unlikely to be outperformed by one miserable man who can only move a few km from his landing point and can't stay more than a couple weeks. If humans do eventually land on Mars, they would not arrive alone. Re:Yes, we should give up because it is hard.. It's also frequently resupplied from Earth. You just trudge through the world's longest, most horrible amusement park lineup for your moment at the top. And that would have to be big enough to provide space for medical facilities, a galley, hydroponics, recycling, etc. Both are really hard. There may be more comments in this discussion. Many science fiction authors that tend toward Campbellian work like Kim Stanley Robinson have contemplated what a permanent Mars mission would look like, and before a human ever climbs into a rocket the nation-state has sent dozens of missions to begin the resource extraction process, mostly in the case of the science fiction authors, atmospheric extraction of vital elements, but the point still stands that a lot of mechanized work will happen autonomously to prepare the way for permanent human habitation. And if people are going to be stuck in metal tubes anyway, it might as well be tubes that can MOVE places instead of being anchored to rock at the bottom of a steep gravity well. But without economic reasons, this is not sustainable. It has a much harsher thermal environment due to its complete lack of atmosphere. And there is plenty of interesting research to be done there as well. Space experts are debating all over the world whether we humans should go to Mars or not. No content whatsoever, but whatever. There is another whole world out there, more interesting and more exciting than getting a good return on your investments, and extracting every last possible second out of life. I'm not being a troll here, nor am I trying to dissuade anyone from their mountain-climbing hobbies. After the second or third landing, people stopped caring. And all of these are quite toward the easy end of "refining" tasks. "Yes, in an environment that can sustain life, heading to a place that might have something you want. Everest has been done to death. We do have some idea of what to expect from long-term zero gravity thanks to astronauts like Scott Kelly and Mikhail Kornienko, who just this year completed a year-long space mission. This is why Mars landings often include rockets firing toward the ground – so-called retro-rockets -- that help slow down the descent. And I just don't see the point in spending a lot of money just to ensure that "the human race" survives. Nuking the poles won't change that... just give a very brief warm/wet spell. What really cemented my belief that going to Mars is impossible with current technology is this article [nasa.gov]. Excellent article and worthy of discussion and serious thought. Not for nine months. I'm with you. The fact is that sending mass to the Moon is 100x cheaper. And they're experiencing all sorts of medical problems because of it. Then we will have the biggest technological benefits. Ridden by superstitions, doubts, inaccuracies. Don't say "solar power", because the Sun appears much smaller when viewed from Mars, and thus receives much less energy. He's not saying we should never go. Talk to me about a cloud city on Venus though... that is a hot idea. There May Be Life Beneath the Martian Surface Of course, storage (for nighttime or rainy days) is a problem, but if our utilities ran well and compensated solar users properly, this wouldn't be a problem, as the solar users c. And people who can't understand past the third grade level. Mars is very cold - but its pretty consistent. We could extract water from the soil, because it is present in subsurface ice, as well as in the form of water of hydration. The tech developed going to Mars will undoubtedly be useful when going other places. You crawl before you walk, you walk before you run. The biggest tech breakthrough we will have in the next generation is the development of machines that can act ever more independently. He is also wrong about the Hinderberg; hydrogen may well not have been the culprit (this theory was mainly pushed by the Nazis to blame the US for not selling them helium) and in any case the airship industry was mostly killed by powered flight getting better. Since it's a metaphysical certitude that Elon Musk doesn't vote Republican or belong to the Tea Party, your comment pushes the bounds of stupidity. Seriously, how often has the ISS lost things like its oxygen generators, its urine reprocessor, etc? There are people willing to go there even if they won't survive very long. Because even a thin atmosphere beats hard vacuum by dampening the thermal swings during day/night cycle. Discussions of the nature of man, and the establishment of wonder being particularly squishy in hard science terms. I don't think anyone that's serious about going to Mars is assuming that resource extraction and management is a cakewalk. let alone the airless lifeless desert which is Mars. Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Google+ (Opens in new window). The people who reduce Mars resource extraction to simple "We'll simply do this, then that" statements have clearly never had to work building or maintaining mining, ore processing, and refining equipment on Earth, let alone on Mars ;) We've never done any sort of actual mining on other worlds (no, using a RAT or taking tiny dust samples is not "mining"), and most of the stuff one might consider even close to "refining" we've done in space has proved to be a maintenance nightmare. They would carry with them their earthly microbes. In retrospect the first exporters of the "new world" seemed to die pointless deaths too, but their exploration and their expanding of the known world was not pointless at all. Just askin'.... Read the bottom. If a homeless guy walks into your office, rubs shit in his hair, proclaims himself a god, and asks you to follow him, would your line of reasoning be "Well, he COULD be crazy...but I had better follow him anyway, because I could just be being too pessimistic"? It was hard work, but a self-sustaining (even resource producing) colony *could* be built in the New World. Heck, the oxygen generator literally just dumps its hydrogen overboard and they never attempt to tank the oxygen. But if enough Astronauts haven't grown up yet then who am I to stop them? I agree it would be cheaper. They also happen to have a lot of money, and apparently get bored easily. And last but not least, number 5: The Contamination Problem. Compared to Mars, life there will be paradise. You can explore the whole planet rather than just the area immediately around your landing site. Be informed. To reduce risk, reasonable mission profiles for Mars that involve in-situ actually call for a long "prep phase". If we go to Mars, the first trip would make headlines, so may the second, but then attention will fade. Without JavaScript enabled, you might want to turn on Classic Discussion System in your preferences instead. Colonizing the moon first sounds like the reasonable choice... No... the new world had the capacity to sustain life. I think the idea that we're trying to colonize the planet is a bit of a straw man. That said, 'omg it's hard' is not valid reason not to exercise our ingenuity and expand our capacities. Also trivial to simulate on a space station. Everest, however, ...has oxygen all on its own. That ain't happening without Commonwealth Saga-esque wormholes. It's not "fantasy" to have solar power powering much of our world. As to the argument to solve Earth's problems first, that's silly. And the closest we have come to actually visualizing another planet where humans can survive, is the red planet Mars. If only the U.S. [wikipedia.org] (or the Russians [wikipedia.org] perhaps) had the foresight to start trying to build technology that could sustain human life [wikipedia.org] for an extended period [wikipedia.org] in space. But travel to and from a rotating space station would be a LOT easier. We need to loft a multi-megawatt reactor to power those engines, provide ample power for life support, and generate a magnetic shield for protection from various forms of radiation. I personally think returning to the Moon and going on to Mars is the right kind of idea that can inspire the rest of the world, especially if they are included. We are not responsible for them in any way. argument: With the exception of a planet-destroying asteroid (similar to the one that formed the moon), there is no conceivable disaster that will leave the earth less inhabitable by humans than any other body within our conceivable reach. "The notion that we can start colonizing Mars within the next 10 years or so is an overoptimistic, delusory idea that falls just short of being a joke.". Right: Impact ejecta on Mars. Dreams of terraforming aside, in the short term (read: next few centuries at least) man will only be able to live on Mars if encapsulated in climate-controlled metal-tubes. I know, right? There's a lot of potential for precipitating out exotic compounds in the high pressure / high temperature environment, the Venera probes found some types of lava flows often associated with rare mineral deposits, and there's good evidence to suggest large carbonatite flows which are often associated with even rarer deposits. What if sorry ass humans are the Universe's best shot at an advanced life from? In th. You need to reduce Earth's population by a few billion to make a dent. ""First, there is the tedious business of getting there. New videos every Monday unless I screw up. The Moon has wild variations in temperature depending on if you are in sunlight or shade - and the night lasts 2 weeks. John F Kennedy perfectly told the world WHY we should do hard things. he puts on a good show, even if he "falls just short of being a joke". The costs to return to the Moon are estimated to be at least 1 or 2 billion dollars. Space X and Tesla founder Elon Musk has a vision for colonising Mars, based on a big rocket, nuclear explosions and an infrastructure to transport millions of people there. Your email address will not be published. The asteroid belt, on the other hand, is full of useful stuff in convenient orbits. CROSS-CONTAMINATION FROM EARTH. Because, unlike Earth, Mars has a very thin atmosphere and no magnetosphere. I'm not opposed. It's a fools errand. Official history say that he was the first to arrive in Brazil in 1500 A.D., a few years after Columbus's trip in 1492. He's just giving a reality check: there are technological problems we need to overcome first, and at the rate we're progressing, we won't be there in the next 10 years. By marjorie. Minor problem. A first attempt at an outpost that will probably fail after a while, is there support for that? He once wrote a book about how the Hinderberg disaster proves that Technology Is Bad. And what would power it? She thinks we should go there, visit the planet and do science there. I think we should try to have an unmanned mission return to earth from Mars before we attempt to have a manned mission go to Mars. Nonetheless, I do ultimately agree with Regis' premise that Mars should not be the goal simply because Mars is a dead-end. Of course - no one will give a flying f*** about it - but this is about science and progress for humanity - not personal vanity, right? Always a favorite of PR firms and politicians.). Please create an account to participate in the Slashdot moderation system. No new comments can be posted. Oddly enough, the technology developed to go to Mars could conceivably assist with your first request of eliminating carbon emissions. Take smaller steps. | Answers With Joe, Literally Just 2 Minutes Of Me Clearing My Throat, Get A Dog They Said. Required fields are marked *. The colonists must be provided with a steady supply of oxygen. 3 million pounds worth of supplies. In the Biosphere 2 project, they grew their own food and struggled to have enough for everyone to eat. Fo. And they're anything but "simple", even for the simplest tasks like water production and oxygen generation. To support Kurzgesagt and learn more about Brilliant, go to https://www.brilliant.org/nutshell and sign up for free. The biggest thing to me is just how much supplies you need to sustain yourself for the trip. So all we need is a continuum of planets between our orbit and that of Mars that are increasingly hostile and distant; that will allow us to work our way up to Mars. I didn't see where he said we "shouldn't" go, just that it's a fantasy to think it'll be any time soon. Who cares if mankind continues if 99.999% are wiped out by something? No doubt its FEASIBLE, but that degree of engineering doesn't happen without a LOT of buildup. The dust on the Moon is entirely un-weathered, and is likely to present a hazard due to being incredible abrasive. After all, one needn’t go to Mars to find a pristine frontier, or at least the idea of one—the concept of wild, untouched land is a deeply embedded part of the American mythos. People will care about a colony on Mars as much as they care about the international space station. “The main idea, I think, was to escape from where he was,” says David Portree, an archivist at the U.S. Geological Survey's Astrogeology Science Center and author of Humans to Mars. I mean, what are you going to do once you get there that can't be done here on Earth? Plus, any good Venus exploring program would have power generation/recharging, cooling, and sample analysis done at altitude in a centralized aerial station rather than hauling down (and back up) a lot of sensitive equipment that you have to protect from the heat - which makes it easier to just declare that central station a manned laboratory. It's the logical stepping stone always has been.Easier to get to.Can actually get aid to in case of emergency.Will have a much quicker return on investment.Once we have it colonized, it will be much easier to spread into the solar system from there. With Project Orion powered space craft, we could send 100,000 ton vessels to Mars, single stage, capable of landing, with a trip time of weeks, not months. If even a few bunkers of isolated survivors on earth lived through a super-plague of epic biblical proportions, they would still be far more likely to survive than any colonies of humans in space (who would all be dead very shortly after the supply drops stopped coming from earth). That way, if the system fails, or produces resources that for some reason or another are not usable, people don't die. After the students have an idea of persuasion from our discussion on commercials, I will inform the students that we will be writing persuasive letters to the perspective Mars One candidates persuading them either to reconsider their decision or to go for it. ^All that and learning to mine asteroids seems more productive than a Mars mission. He wasn't suggesting building moon bases. It's much easier to get full earth gravity on a space station than on Mars. It's the only one we've got. Mars is an obvious target for exploration because it is close by in our Solar System, but there are many more reasons to explore the Red Planet. And that's when the system's not trying to kill you - they've had corrosive chemical leaks, near-fire situations, etc. I agree to an extent, but at this point, we'd just be sending out a 'few heroic lives' to do die lonely, pointless deaths that tell us nothing about anything. To shoot people toward Mars before those problems have been solved would be irresponsible. The nearest planet or moon where humans could live in an even remotely self-sustainable way is so far away that even if we could travel near the speed of light, it would still be well out of our reach. Sure there's rockets that can lift more than the shuttle could, but even with those heavy lifter rockets, you're probably looking at around 30 launches just to get the gear into space. Mars is the closest thing we have to Earth in the entire solar system, and that’s not saying much. From dangerous Martian regolith, low gravity, and harmful cosmic radiation, Mars seems like the worst environment for human life in the solar system. The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. This is the difference between trying to explore the new world, from Europe, with 5 people, paddles and a canoe; or a fleet of diesel powered amphibious vessels holding thousands of tons of cargo, and hundreds/thousands of expeditionary personnel. From that perspective, going to Mars could be a great boost - if we decide not to send humans but restrict ourselves to probes. Is not complicated. They're considering including it on the Mars 2020 rover (although somewhat controversially - I wouldn't be too shocked if it got cut). Translation: Stupid people exist. Copyright © 2021 SlashdotMedia. Walking outside on Mars is not that much different from walking on the moon, from a life support systems perspective. Finally, the Moon is too close. As for your ideas on reasons to go or not go, I heartily concur. Of all the other planets in the solar system, Mars is the one most like Earth in terms of the ability of humans to live there. OP was not saying it would help reduce population, they were making the point that we have enough humans that a few could choose to go to Mars and we'd get on fine here. But it also means long delays before you can launch people, even after you get the mission there. NASA however is the most honest about it, they have it slated for 2035 at this present time which we can already suspect will slide backw. Number of XcodeGhost-Infected iOS Apps Rises, Facebook Dislike Hype Exploited In Phishing Campaign, IBM Advanced Systems Group -- a bunch of mindless jerks, who'll be first So this would mean: 1) Hope that MOXIE doesn't get cut before launch2) Hope that Mars 2020 makes it into the 2020 launch window3) Arrive at Mars after a long cruise phase. Might as well tell the guys spending a year on the iSS as a Mars mission study to come home now. There's quite a few people who power their homes with solar power exclusively, and make so much extra they can sell it back to the utility. Cool! People will have a lot of room to move around in. Gotta love the passive voice Nazis; if they don't have anything else to say, that's always a good cheap shot. It's suicide. The second we land on Mars, we have contaminated it. If there was a catastrophic happening that affected Earth, Mars would be affected too. 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